Dear Neal, 
I want to thank you for all the work you have done to establish democracy in America.  Your years of dedication to this cause deserve praise.
But you have made one fatal mistake.  You missed the insight of the grandfather of the attack on the Electoral College.  You say that the Electoral College is “archaic” and “unfair.”  Lucius Wilmerding said that it was “unconstitutional.”   
The law of the Electoral College violates the Constitution itself. For if the majority of the people, could by mutual agreement enter into a binding social compact, then certainly a majority of the country could by direct and popular vote choose the leader of the executive branch of government established under that Constitution.[i][i]
If the Electoral College were merely “archaic” and “unfair,” it can only be abolished through the Legislative process. But since the Electoral College is “unconstitutional,” it can be abolished in a court of law by a lawsuit.    Quok Walker v. Jennings, (Mass. Sup. Court, 1783); Dred Scott v. Sanford, 19 How. 399, 660  (1857); “The Dred Scott Case,” by Bruce Catton, in Quarrels That Have Shaped the Constitution, Harper and Row:  New York (1962).
I have been working to this end for the past decade.  Henderson v. The Electoral College, U.S.D.C.Central District No. 00-12445 (BQRx)(filed November 22, 2000); Phillips v. Electoral College, U.S.D.C. for Northern California, No. C01-0011, WHO, 9th Cir. No. 01-16475 (filed January 3, 2001); Gary Michael Coutin v. The Electoral College et al, U.S. District Court of California, Central District No. 8:2004cv01259 (Filed October 29, 2004); Coutin v. Miller, Eighth District No. A572629 (filed and served September 30, 2008); Perkel v. United States of America, U.S.D.C. Nor. Cal.  C 00-4288 SI  (November __, 2000; denied January 9, 2001);Gordon v. Biden, Case No. 09-5142, C.A. No. 08-1294 (HHK); Asa Gordon, Pro Se, DC Presidential Elector, Chair, DC Statehood Green Party Electoral College Task Force, Exe.Dir. Douglass Institute of Government v, The Honorable Lorraine C. Miller, Clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives, United States District Court, For The District Of Columbia Case: 1:11-cv-0003 (1/3/2011).  
I have recently proposed to file a lawsuit to resolve the question which triaggered the Civil War.  
Is the Declaration of Independence the Supreme Law of the Land?  Because if it is, the Electoral College is null and void.  
Gary Michael Coutin, Esquire


  1. This is genius. The reason that people don’t vote is because they know that their vote counts little or not at all, in the face of the electoral college. The college decides on the president, we don’t.
    Please do sue, and please WIN that suit!

  2. Martin Covax says:

    Well…..i am just happy to get this photo
    of what I presume is a view
    from the Womans’ Temple…it is
    awesome!!!!I wish the Goddess would tell us more
    about this view…few of us… are actually on Hawaii.
    I am just glad she/Roseanne is happy……she
    deserves all the privacy she wants..
    she has no aloha? …she should move to Maui??

  3. well…the reason given we needed an
    electoral college per
    Los Angeles City Schools…. was that
    it would prevent smaller states
    from being ignored by larger,
    more populated states like New York vs. Vermont
    i guess…..??????????
    but even electoral votes are porportional…so????
    The EC is likely corrupted as everything else
    seems to be ……on that high-level govt.policy agencey status…
    ..but basically we were sold it would protect
    the influence of smaller states…right?????

  4. dashus christ says:

    ThankYou for the live stream also Roseanne-i’m more than interested & hope puter works for this very special ceremony

  5. mahalo for the live stream

  6. the ceremony is private-the gathering is by invitation only-just for friends and family–the museum is open to the public only two or three times per year for art exhibits and meditation circles-however, we are going to livestream it here for all who are interested-

  7. sorry for going off topic but i just had to reply…

  8. Me thinks there are two ways to look at this Tim & Elizabeth, i understand a closed door ceremony probably don’t look like much of a transition from patriarchal to matriarchal ways and means, because basically matriarchal energy is nurture and embracing verses the me me me isolationism we see in our current patriarchal mindset.
    But there is also the aspect of the importance of creating the proper energy and following proper protocol for a ceremony and sometimes that means being very very specific about whom is welcome. I have been in ceremonies where one spooky women actually crept up and spied on us in a tree. i only caught her because as fire women sometimes i stepped out of the circle for wood. We each felt very violated and it threw us all out of sync.
    I know you know how crucial it is to stay like minded while doing the ceremony itself; and that may be impossible in a public event where people whom may have no respect for what you are doing attend. I have been to many women’s circles where i have seen people whose heart was so full of judgment and dis-respect that it felt like some of the intention of the ceremony was poisoned.
    I can imagine the dis respect you may feel if you wanted to gift this event/museum/Roseanne with precious artwork, and she turned you down, and as a long time PuNaTic i truly understand the distaste for the whole closed gate vibe, but i
    humbly suggest you reclaim your own inner pono self(s) , let it go, and just allow Roseanne to run her ceremony the way she and her kumu on this see’s fit, without underhanded attacking her…jus sayin…aloha pumehana, aunti

  9. 100000172732968 says:

    This is The Big Island. We where donating a painting worth 10,000k the the Museum to promote the goddess pele and to help your run. and you have no ALOHA
    Ps You can run POTUS from your Blog?
    Tim &Elizabeth

  10. 100000172732968 says:

    Aloha, RB WTF!!!!!!!
    I am so sorry you have no aloha. people that hide behind gates belong on Maui with the other high minded ego,s on the planet. big island is more Akamai. and we are more down to earth. have your way and act like your POTUS.
    You have a Big ego.
    I liked what you say but think you make a good straw woman.
    Aloha good luck
    Tim & Elizabeth

  11. Christopher Michael Ward says:

    Good letter.