the grotesque sexism that I wrote about in ny mag:

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this guy and every one of his commenters loathe women--check it out--I'm just the only one they dare to call a cunt and a bitch in public, as they trip over their own feet to gobble Hollywood knob.
  Ken Levine is a farily respected sit-com writer, and yet he has no respect for me as a fellow writer in any way.  Why would a writer have no respect for another who accomplished far more than he ever did? Because that person is female, that's why. 
   Why would he insult me for wanting credit for my writing, when he himself is a writer and a member of a guild that protects him from being ripped off, or having his work published under someone else's name?  He would howl like the balless little bitch that he is if that happened to him, but it wouldn't because he is a white jewish man who has thousands of peers who would take his side with him if that happened to him.  It happened to me, Ken.  You purposely mischaracterize my words in the New York magazine article that I WROTE.  I took responsiblity for bad behavior, but explained that the bad behavior was during a nervous breakdown brought on by having to work in a hostile work environment, and I am pretty sure that women who have worked for you in the past (if indeed there were ANY) worked in a hostile work environment.  Let me know, women writers out there--how were you treated on Ken Levine's staff? 
   He uses a racist term "gypped" in his ignorant article about me--so I am sure if there were ever any people of color on his staff that they worked in a hostile work environment too--sexists and racists are not nice people.
  I did not have fawning guys up my ass trying to get a future job out of me like you do, Ken, I had only contempt, like the kind that drips from your article about me and denigrates my work, and gives a man credit for it.  My work was stolen from me, and I will never get over, and neither would you, if that happened to you.
  Because I am a woman writer who wrote almost sixty percent of the words in the pilot that does not bear my name, you could care less, but if it were you, you would be on the phone with your fat Hollywood lawyers in a heart beat, and probably be crying crocodile tears.  So many artists, woman and man are victims of hypocrites, and I decided after twenty years of hearing how crazy I was, from every single corner of Hollywood, that I would write about my side of things for once.  You really prefer the tabloid versions of me and who I am and what I lived through, and that is because, you are not on the side of writers at all, which makes you a hack.  
  Your writing is so arrogant and narcissitic that I would fire you if I could, because you deserve it.  Try a little empathy for a fellow guild member next time, asshat.  Again, for the thinking humans and women who are no doubt the victims of the hostile work environment that your words plainly encourage --as can be gleaned from the language you choose to use, which is completely derogatory and woman hating, call the California Labor Commission and register a complaint, I encourage you.  You have a lot of power in your hands when you bring charges of fostering a hostile work environment to Hollywood's sexist and racist producers.  You can shut their whole ops down, and thereby save our country from pointless offensive destructive white boy 'humor'.
  The sexism of male writers is so apparant in the inane woman loathing comment section, that it totally proves my point: most male TV writers are unappreciative, petty, narcissitic, hateful, ignorant idiots who will repeat any canard on earth as long as it makes them think they look like they are smarter than any female.  
  These pricks all stick together too, and have each other's backs---all for one and one for all--few of them have the brains or guts to stick up for a fellow writer if that writer is female, or a person of color, trust me it's an every day reality--and I encourage those who have experienced it first hand to blog here.

  I am also going to ask several of my favorite male writers who loved working with me and still do to this day to also blog about that here--stay tuned--

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Lucifer Sam
Lucifer Sam    May 29, 2011 5:50 PM

May your cunt side be blessed by my kisses and your bitch side be embraced by my darkness.

Kelly
Kelly    May 29, 2011 6:13 PM

I enjoyed reading your article, Roseanne. It was both interesting and well written. These folks are jerks.

Lucifer Sam
Lucifer Sam    May 29, 2011 6:40 PM

I skipped over your critics and went straight for your article as well. It was very moving for me, as I am someone who is new to the entertainment industry and is well aware of the harassment and manipulation of the industry.

crazy horse
crazy horse    May 29, 2011 6:46 PM

fuck that piece of shit. who the hell is he? a writer? of a blog? and not even a well written blog at that. I tried to comment and tell him what you do for US and other's in need and that you put your money and your beliefs into action, but it would not let me sign in. coward mother fucker. don't let the bastards grind you down. ain't worth it. aho.

dashus christ
dashus christ    May 29, 2011 7:32 PM

just a guy clinging desperately to a dying patriarchy-and another great reason for you Roseanne to always keep swinging the TRUTH as you Enlighten us w/ it, and giving way for All Fems their right to be heard (and speak of ills known) Now as well !!!

I Loved your article-- Completely Awesome!!!

BARR2012 REAL SOLUTIONS BARR2012

dashus christ
dashus christ    May 29, 2011 7:43 PM
in reply to dashus christ

Your photo means the same to me as LJG states- "A Mystical Force to Be Reckoned With"-Amazing!!

Stace
Stace    May 29, 2011 8:00 PM

Well the guy who posted that article is also an Emmy awarded writer who wrote for Cheers, Mash, Everybody Loves Raymond, Wings, Becker, Dharma & Greg, Frasier and The Simpsons so I'm wondering if he's possibly a writer that could be mad that he got turned down back in the day from Roseanne's show or some other personal grudge??? Just a thought

Lucifer Sam
Lucifer Sam    May 29, 2011 8:02 PM
in reply to dashus christ

Speaking of witch (by witch I mean a mean a craft so pure and unexplainable that it is by definition a craft of true female power) Where is LJG?!?! I love her wit and explainations that support Barr 2012!

dashus christ
dashus christ    May 29, 2011 9:18 PM

This IS serious stuff-Thank You for More of the TRUTH!!!

Stace
Stace    May 29, 2011 10:20 PM

Ok so this makes no sense. Roseanne, isn't it you that blogs about things as you see them that are normally controversial, and have ranted about everyone from Brad Pitt, Jon Voight, Angelina Jolee, Ashton Kutcher, Demi Moore, and probably every other actor / producer / director in Hollywood and essentially put them and their work down? So really what I'm not understanding is how can you be mad at someone else for doing the same thing that you've done for over 10 years, just because this one happens to be about you?
Pardon me if this is rude but just seems really funny how moods somtimes change when the tables are turned and people taste their own medicine.

Ladyjane Green
Ladyjane Green    May 29, 2011 10:28 PM
in reply to dashus christ

thanks dc, and lucifer, had some intensive music learnin seminar, and then my friends started the camera.... one week later....am catching up.slowly. taking some breathing time, but missing some good shit here... oy! I loved this article cuz you know the Matriot was one loud bytch that was not wanted in folly -wood. It killed em to let R barr in, they wanted to" break her" when she did get in, then when she reached the top of "da game" they were working tirelessly to tear her shit down. Non traditional, larger, working class, empowered, shit talking matriots tend to worry those penises(cut or non) in charge, especially the infamously sexist entertainment guilds and unions that run hollywood. Roseanne was and is a role model to many womyn and other marginalized folk who normally have no voice. The Haters may gather at the outskirts, but the queendom stands secure. Luce, hang in there, haters come and go but the truehearts keep beating as one....

Ladyjane Green
Ladyjane Green    May 29, 2011 11:39 PM
in reply to Lucifer Sam

true pioneers and visionaries are often loathed, reviled, and persecuted in their own times. Roseanne, along with most of us bloggin womyn folk would have wound up burning at the stake if we were born in just about any other times than the ones we occupy now, so pardon us if we get Paranoid, protective, and down right retaliatory in the presence of such profoundly " dumbass" vibrations. The inherent sexisim, racisim, homophobia, and classisim that is ceaselessly expounded in the world of tv shit- coms is no doubt perpetuated by this hollywood writer of blah blah blah.. R Barr may indeed rant about other celebs here in these hallowed halls, as well she can. She is the provider of this forum for us members, who enjoy our freedoms here where womyn are heard, and herd! (tons of us heffas, lol) Point i am trying to make is that these blog threads generally dont end in genderbashing and personal attacks( there are the occasional lapses) Where else can u see hardcore dykefeminists earnestly explaining why forced circumcision has turned men into mutilated, over stimulated murder and pornviolence junkies. R barrs diatribes about the greasy slimy whyte underbelly reveal far too much of Follywoods bad side. Of course the yes men suck ups are a choking on the Patriarchal Paste that their diet consists of....

Roseanne
Roseanne    May 29, 2011 11:47 PM
in reply to Stace

i don't suffer lying hypocrites very well--but you can't tell the difference between a lying hypocrite and a righteous crusader at all. The reason you can't tell the difference is because you are blinded by hatred and ignorance that you cling to because, well, you have nothing else to cling to--it's not as if you have any kind of taste or ability to decipher bullshit from truth of any sort. You are the perfect patriarchal female--attacking women who are braver and smarter and more accomplished than you will ever be (yes that's me)--on behalf of woman hating patriarchs who control your mind (small as it is). pardon me if you think this is rude, but you came here to insult me, and I could care less about anything you have to say, because it's all so adolescent uniformed and boring really.
tell us again how terrible helping the poor is---please leave this place and don't return.

Geoff
Geoff    May 30, 2011 1:38 AM

Roseanne, that idiot trashed you because you "told on" the industry - and many people find it embarrassing. What is the first thing you do when you want to discredit someone? Call them crazy. "Don't listen to her, she's just crazy."

Everyone knows that the majority of people in Hollywood (from actor to writer to production assistant) is treated like shit by the people above them. However, no one wants to be called out and named as being one of the people who treats their co-workers like shit.

Hollywood is one of the only industries where hostile work environments are the norm. And it is 100% true when I say that it is NORMAL. It's actually expected. As a worker, you should up EXPECTING to be abused by someone, and oftentimes are very surprised on the rare occasion when it doesn't happen.

The only thing you wrote in your blog that I take exception to is this:

"male writers are unappreciative, petty, narcissitic, hateful, ignorant idiots who will repeat any canard on earth as long as it makes them think they look like they are smarter than any female. "

Well, here is one male writer who doesn't fit that profile. Just pointing that out. Still waiting on that release form. :P

Geoff
Geoff    May 30, 2011 2:01 AM

This was the most hilarious part of Levine's rant:

" Later she references Chuck Lorre and how he has since hired most of her crew and supporting actors. If he were so terrible why would they agree to work for him again?"

Gee, I don't know Ken? Money? Are you really trying to tell me that a Grip, or someone in Transpo, or a working actor, is going to turn down a paycheck to feed his/her family because they don't like the producer? Grow up.

Chuck Lorre is a really bad example to pick if you want to show the "good side" of Hollywood too. Wait until he loses his lawsuit with Charlie Sheen for fostering a hostile work environment. Those vanity cards are clear proof of bullying/humiliation tactics - and these Vanity Cards were not only shown IN the workplace, but on prime time television all over the world. NOTE: Not a fan of Charlie's lifestyle, but I did agree with him on this one issue.

I noticed that Ken hasn't worked since 2004. Maybe he's sucking up to someone, Roseanne. Consider that.

Lucifer Sam
Lucifer Sam    May 30, 2011 6:13 AM
in reply to Ladyjane Green

Oh Goddess LJG, it is such a breathe of fresh herbal air to see you back on here! May my diet consist of the herbal graces of mary jane, and that of which her munchies side effects say is ok to partake of.

May our hearts always beat as one, and have vibrations of truth and common sense as opposed to dumbass extremism of either side.

derek
derek    May 30, 2011 8:26 AM

lol, it's funny how he goes "I don't know her, I'm an outsider" and then proceeds to judge everything you said about your show as if he is a fucking expert. What an idiot.

JamesMohr
JamesMohr    May 30, 2011 9:43 AM

I liked ur article and the first photo. I especially liked the parts about the chocolate cake and the story about the dinner reservation. "Life is like being a box of chocolate cake sent to Roseanne -- you never know when you'll be smashed to smithereens with a baseball bat."

shortpack
shortpack    May 30, 2011 9:45 AM

"all she is really being gypped out of is royalties." FALSE.

canagirl
canagirl    May 30, 2011 10:01 AM

Not to mention that as a writer he should know "gypped" is a racist term referring to "gypsies".
Wow that article made me furious!
You shouldn't resent not getting creator status because you were well remunerated? What kind of bullshit logic is that?? A lot of artists are paid off (ie. ripped off) for their work, speak to any African American musician.
I would like to know why men artists can be total assholes and respected, and women are automatically branded bitches and monsters? Actually, I know why, as a female filmmaker myself. It keeps us weak, since we have the tendency to self-criticize and self-loathe to begin with.

Christopher Michael Ward
Christopher Michael Ward    May 30, 2011 1:17 PM

You know i used to have a blog on blogspot but i always was smart with my writing, you guys might have read it on the old forum before i shut it down bechuse i did not think anyone was reading it. Anyway this guy is wrong and dumb and a sexist mother fucker. I will never work for him or Matt or Chuck if i ever get a job in media which i study. Barr is right.

Karen
Karen    May 30, 2011 2:41 PM

I think the rage that I read in some of the comments over there is unproductive.

I think you are wonderful and I say this even though I do not always agree with all of the things you write here. I do not think we have to be carbon copies of each other in this world. I like listening to other points of view because that's when I learn the most about myself. I think we'd all be better off if we learned to listen to each other better.

I think your perspective of your reality is something that other people should be willing to listen to without attacking you. I felt such compassion for your experience while reading that piece in ny magazine. I noted your disillusionment with the whole fame thing when you could not get a table at that restaurant that night--something that you probably would have gone on taking for granted until it was driven home to you how fleeting fame can be.

If you know the truth about yourself, and you know the truth in the depth of your soul, you won't let some character named Ken Levine get the best of you.

tricia lundberg
tricia lundberg    May 30, 2011 5:58 PM

a cunt is a beautiful thing. and we all know what "bitch" means when used by a man towards a woman

sounds like the guy is a douchey cuntface (now a cunt on a face is really not so pretty)

never heard of this guy until he jumped on roseanne. attention weasel like the trump??

Lucifer Sam
Lucifer Sam    May 31, 2011 2:58 AM
in reply to tricia lundberg

LOL Good stuff Tricia!

joaby.boaby
joaby.boaby    May 31, 2011 7:18 AM

I can't believe grown people even use that word in the press. It's shameful and really speaks to their lack of character. To call an inspiring forward-thinking woman like Roseanne a c#nt for a few hits to your blog or readers to your column, or whatever... That is so ostentatious.

Writers express themselves more eloquently like that! As for "only" being gypped on royalties - what utopian world does Ken Levine live in, that money doesn't matter much to people? Um... That's why people go to work everyday.

I don't even think there should be a place for a sycophant like that on so many top rated shows. I think they should get some fresh blood to the table and stop scraping by on the vapours of such cynical minds. No wonder the shows all get stale and blend in to each other after a couple seasons.

It's time we stopped heralding hacks like Ken for phoning t in to begin with. Roseanne I loved your show and consider you to be a comic genius. I never saw a sitcom called Ken but if I had it would have sucked. :)

joaby.boaby
joaby.boaby    May 31, 2011 7:41 AM

Oh wait, Ken didn't call Roseanne a c#nt, his readers did. My mistake! It's indicative of the kind of energy he attracts on a daily basis, I'm sure.
Roseanne you not afraid to speak your mind or bite back, and I admire that. It's a privileged position but you are right, he must have issues with women to call you monsterous. Women with power are not monsters any more than their powerful male counterparts. His article got him some attention but at the end of the day all it amounts to are a few strung-together colorful anecdotes, of the kind I'm certain most "hollywood cocksuckers" would tell at dinner parties nobody gives a shit to attend. Lol.

joaby.boaby
joaby.boaby    May 31, 2011 8:09 AM

I'm commenting to many times but can I just add that I am über impressed you gave Joss Whedon his first break.

That is seriously cool!

Oh and obviously I enjoyed your article for the NY times too. Intriguing enough to be a whole new sitcom.

Lucifer Sam
Lucifer Sam    May 31, 2011 8:12 AM
in reply to joaby.boaby

Gotta love "Buffy the vampire slayer" and I think "Angel" as well! What are the other shows Joss Whedon has done? Did he help with "Supernatural"? That's my fav. show!

joaby.boaby
joaby.boaby    May 31, 2011 8:37 AM

I love that supernatural too. Oi those boys are hot!

But no, Joss doesn't work on that. He did Buffy, Angel, and he wrote the screenplay for Serenity. He also made the now defunct series titled dollhouse. Wiki says he's working on a 'the avengers' reboot now. ;)

DFDoe
DFDoe    May 31, 2011 9:17 AM

The great thing about having a blog is the ability to rant about whatever's up your ass to a group of groupies that don't know any better, ain't it!

-DF

Angelina    May 31, 2011 10:34 AM

For the record... I am a woman. I am a writer of television. And I found nothing sexist or racist about Levine's post. I am grateful for the trailblazing women such as yourself have done. Thanks to you, it's considerably less difficult to be a woman doing this job. I have been encouraged and supported by the men for whom I've worked. In fact, all my mentors and champions have been men. They are good and kind and talented and I am forever in their debt. You changed things, Roseanne. Maybe it's time to unclench your fists. You might find not everyone's looking for a fight.

Roseanne
Roseanne    May 31, 2011 11:26 AM
in reply to Angelina

"there there little girl, there's no sexism anywhere, you're crazy to think that way. smile pretty! you are mentally unbalanced for noticing those things!"---

Christopher Michael Ward
Christopher Michael Ward    May 31, 2011 1:17 PM
in reply to Angelina

Hey your wrong with your blog post and i am going to tell you how. So listin to me good. Ken is a sexist and he told lies abount roseanne for no reason whatsoever. He just did it to talk abount females who will not let him talk down to them, and Roseanne showed him who was boss. Please try to understand Roseanne is not the bad guy here, Ken is. Ken is a asshole who tells LIES ABOUNT ROSEANNE. and you need to stop sticking up for him dear. It is not worth the time or energy.

dashus christ
dashus christ    May 31, 2011 1:42 PM
in reply to Roseanne

So True, for now tho-not for ever

BARR 2012

dashus christ
dashus christ    May 31, 2011 1:45 PM

Well Put!

dashus christ
dashus christ    May 31, 2011 2:30 PM
in reply to Ladyjane Green

I Love this-LJG states" Truehearts keep beating as ONE", Lovely and Heartfelt!!

BeenThere
BeenThere    May 31, 2011 3:34 PM

It is AMAZING to me how many men who've never met a woman will deny that woman's personal experience. When I write about the sexism I've experienced in my life, I get loads of comments from complete male strangers telling me it didn't happen. The friggin' arrogance. Screw 'em all Roseanne, screw 'em all.

daquick
daquick    May 31, 2011 4:51 PM
in reply to Lucifer Sam

@Lucifer Sam, Joss also wrote the screenplay for Toy Story and was nominated for an Oscar. He also created the shows Dollhouse and Firefly. Roseanne is a genius for many reasons, and one is for recognizing his genius.
On topic, Ken Levine is a slime.

Roseanne
Roseanne    May 31, 2011 5:20 PM
in reply to BeenThere

its called rape culture

Angelina    May 31, 2011 6:09 PM
in reply to Roseanne

1. Being that that's not at all what I said, I suspect you're unclear on the proper usage of quotation marks.

2. Your diminutive tone is far more sexist than anything I read in Levine's post.

3. I don't have a third but I've been told threes are funny so, here you go...

Angelina    May 31, 2011 6:29 PM

I will happily "listen to you good" when you master basic grammar and spelling.

Christopher Michael Ward
Christopher Michael Ward    May 31, 2011 6:45 PM
in reply to Angelina

Ok let me tell it to you this way you female bully. You are wrong. You hate your own sex and that is so sad. You want to come to Roseanne,s website and fight with her, that is lame and dumb of you. Also rude. So i do not think you need to bully anyone who is righter then you. Understand?.
P s you need to stop bullying me too you beast.

Moon Shadow
Moon Shadow    May 31, 2011 7:03 PM

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2011/05/tv-writer-fight-cheers-scribe-trades-barbs-with-roseanne-barr.html

DAMN!!! Now that's how to fucking run some PR!! Getting great press. Speak your truth. While everyone may not be looking for a fight, WE need people like you fighting for all of us who have no voice. And you have every fucking right to respond to an attack on YOU. YOUR experiences - YOUR voice!!!

btw, have you seen Bradley Manning's father's interviews recently? Very sad.

Christopher Michael Ward
Christopher Michael Ward    May 31, 2011 7:18 PM
in reply to Moon Shadow

Thanks Moon Shadow for the link. And Now Ken can bite her dust. LOL!

dashus christ
dashus christ    May 31, 2011 8:48 PM
in reply to Moon Shadow

Thx Moon Shadow for the link-this little miserable jerk Ken has backed into a corner he can't get out of.he should have known better not to attack Roseanne Barr,and then expect her to be QUIET!!- Now that is crazy nonthinking.and Yes We Very Much Need R's Voice to speak the TRUTH for Us the People!!


BARR 2012 NOT A LIAR BARR 2012

Soleil
Soleil    May 31, 2011 8:48 PM
in reply to Angelina

Angelina said: "I will happily "listen to you good" when you master basic grammar and spelling."

Angelina, especially since you are a writer, perfectionist & critic, I know you will appreciate my pointing out your grammar certainly needs some fine tuning. >The dreaded double preposition in your sentence >"1. Being THAT THAT'S not at all what I said, I suspect you're unclear on the proper usage of quotation marks."

From http://www.upwritepress.com/BlogRetrieve.aspx?BlogID=2395&PostID=72091

'The last nonstandard construction to consider is the double preposition. There are actually two incorrect ways to double your prepositions. The first involves using two consecutive prepositions when only one is necessary. Examples are off of and off to. Instead of saying Pens roll off of the desk, simply say, Pens roll off the desk. And instead of saying I'm flying off to the convention, say, I'm flying to the convention.'

DJ Tenn. nYc
DJ Tenn. nYc    May 31, 2011 9:07 PM

Roseanne , that guy is about as relevant as a pissant screaming at a pyramid..

Believe me I poured coffee and answered the phone for heterosexual white college pukes like Levine for 3 years at Technicolor and I believe every word you say Roseanne because I saw alot of it happen..

Sadly, here in 2011 , America's addiction for 500 channels of bullshit will only continue to reward his illustrious career of little boy poopie jokes and blatant nepotism / frat boy whale shit... ugh.. the kind of unfunny gasbag who thinks "Seinfeld" is funny/relevant..

the answer is simple.. turn the idiot box off... I swear , you could run that test pattern with the indian chief's picture and these idiots would watch it..

have I got stories for you , Id love for you to read..

Kudos Roseanne for telling the truth and living to tell the tale.. xo
Tenn. nYc

Angelina    May 31, 2011 9:15 PM
in reply to Soleil

You are absolutely correct. I was demanding prescriptivist perfection while approaching things, as is my wont, from a descriptivist's stance. Then again, I am a professional. But it was mean and a cheap shot. I take it all back. Apologies.

DJ Tenn. nYc
DJ Tenn. nYc    May 31, 2011 9:35 PM
in reply to Roseanne

Your work and mission statement will always mean more to my life Roseanne Barr than any unfunny nepotistic unfunny dristan sniffing college hacks and their cheap shots & recycled "humour"..

You are SO winning this round..
xo

QuackQuack
QuackQuack    May 31, 2011 11:32 PM
in reply to Roseanne

It seems to me that you and Ken Levine are both right and both wrong. It sounds that you both have some sort of attraction with each other, in a weird sort of way. Maybe you can find it in your heart to invite him to your nut farm. You show him your nuts and he can show you his nuts.

I think both of you should band together and write a cracking article that will knock the socks off the zombies. I think you both have a lot in common than you think. But just don't want to admit it. You have both obviously been brought together for a reason. So, ego aside, simply iron out your differences, if any and kiss and make up.

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