this thread is for charlie sheen talk and mental illness talk. Charlie is not on drugs, though he can get them from the porn star goddesses that come and go, but his urine shows clean--i think charlie is in a manic high, and is unable to get any drugs to bring him down anymore---his tiger blood statement is from that "eye of the tiger" focus that manics have. Manics can really work hard and play hard at the same time, until they hit a wall, and then they are in bed and depressed for a long time, so they start taking drugs again to get energy to work. Charlie, take a break dude. Go to Greece, Paris, China, look at great art and lay low. you got fired, dude. anybody can do your job, really. other guys are funny and not repulsive to intelligent women, though those shit chuck lorre lines could choke a fucking horse, and render any actor who recites them stone cold soul dead. No grown man could really look himself in the mirror knowing that he delivers shit jokes and adolescent sniggering over breasts and women's body parts lines to the Tea partier types who are big fans of Chuck's hilarious hijinx. I fired Chuck Lorre for being a big drunk on my show, and he went on to become one of tv's most successful writers (about dick jokes). Maybe Charlie can start producing porn movies now!!
charlie sheen makes me look sane;
He needs therapy and compassion. He shouldn't be the butt of anyone's jokes. I feel badly for him and more importantly, his children. The women who are living with him are enablers and vampires.
Agreed, ever since he had his attorneys demand that a Jewish group issue an apology for being outraged about an antisemitism slur that he made, he's bought the metaphoric nut farm!
he is very committed to his addiction. i don't think he's slept in months?
Self medicating due to an underlying mental illness is all too common. But sometimes it's hard to stop because nothing numbs you better than drugs and alcohol.
It soon becomes a cycle where you are making your demons worse BECAUSE OF the drugs and alcohol. But then the only way to forget about that is to do EVEN MORE drugs and alcohol, which is only making everything worse in the first place.
And the cycle continues...
Charlie Sheen is an abuser of women. It makes me sick the way the media is parading this man around for ratings. Of course, that's what they do. Why should I expect anything different. Charlie Sheen needs help. Not a Twitter account and not another TV interview. It's like people are cheering him on as he self destructs. It's disgusting.
Hon if you watched his 20/20 show he took a blood test right there on film so we know he is clean. Also i always said he was bi-polor i think when your bi-polor you can tell who is and who is not i can always tell can you?. My boyfriend marc says i should not judge like that but i do not think i am, i am stateing a fact he needs to calm down and get help like you said.
according to his 20/20 interview he has cured his addiction with his mind which i agree with to a point.
from my experience with alcoholics and addicts, no one can cure them but themselves. they have to decide for themselves that they don't need their booze, drugs, cigs or whatever.
time will tell if he has succeeded.
as for getting fired , that's too bad. but i don't think he is entitled to the rest of his pay from the other episodes. sure he wasn't drunk or high during taping, but his addictions still interfered with his work. i don't care how famous or super he is or think he is. he fucked up and lost his job. average joe isn't going to get his wages if he got fired.
charlie need to take a break and either get rid of the hookers and porn stars and decide to be the father he claims he is. or stop demanding that he get custody and settle for visitation. it doesn't matter who you no child should be subjected to any of what he is doing.
and giving advice to lindsey lohan, really?
rosanne, sure you are kind of a nut job too, but in a good way. that's why i like you so much. but nothing good can come from his kind of craziness
why is charlie sheen being targeted? lets not forget that chuck lorre has been posting vanity cards for years and taunting charlie. i dont think he is on drugs and he is sick of being slaved. is it perhaps that he is outspoken about the 9/11 conspericy have something to do with it? everybody in hollywood has done bad shit...some much worse than him, yet he is being called out. helllooooo...amy winehouse anbody? george the tool clooney admitted about sex with too many women and done too many drugs and yet its funny. the only thing is charlie sheen's venting anger is not helping him....but i dont think there is anything wrong him. nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors...
I think that I can relate to the manic depressive and know what you mean. I've often wondered myself if I may be bi polar and recently have thought of looking into treatment. I've never been treated for any mental illnesses before but will have random spurts where my mood will change rapidly for no reason at all and recently I've just been in like a stage where I haven't had the energy to do anything. Since December 2nd I've hardly had the strength to get out of bed. I'm not a lazy person at all and not suicidal or hardly ever depressed but just cannot explain my lack of energy to even do normal daily activities.
From reading different posts I've seen that you've dealt with similar issues Roseanne and was curious if there's any advice you could offer? I feel nutty for writing this since I don't know you or anyone here but am really looking for help at this point and advice from anyone on what to do cause I cannot find anyone that can relate.
Yes, I agree. He has a seemingly somewhat sociopathic personality. His history of abuse towards women is deplorable. Maybe he also needs a good ass-kicking.... (?) That might humble him a bit. Seriously, sometimes what some people need, in addition to therapy, is for someone to put them in their place. But in the end, what he needs to learn is compassion and humility, and I think that can only be achieved through intensive therapy with a therapist who will confront him on his anger issues and break him open to the pain he is obviously trying to bury.
remember joaquin phoenix last year? everybody thought he was nuts....it all ended up being an act. i think there is waaaaaaaay too much that the public does not know. the media will only show what it wants us to know, thus my comment that until there is proof...i believe he is perfectly fine.
forgot to add....the question still remains in my mind, why is he being made an example when so many other celebrities/politicians have done what he has done and some much worse. how about the pedophiles that go on living luxuriously and are respected....im not saying he is a saint, but i dont think that it is what the media is making him out to be...my 2 cents worth.
Its not that Charlie Sheen is being made an example of but his meltdown feeds public interest. Its not that the media, especially when your dealing with paparazzi, wants to show you what they want you to know but they will only show you what they think they can profit off of, which is the problem with this world. We've turned into a culture that is celebrity hungry and more worried about celebrity meltdowns rather it be from Britney or Charlie, when really all its doing the full aspect is clouding the real issues in the world that people should be concerned with.
Why are Charlie Sheen's life choices so important to so many people? Aren't there more critical issues to focus on! I don't feel one bit sorry for him either. He's made his choice, right? As far as drug testing......his favorite drug is out of one's system quickly, it is easy for him to test "clean".
I don't know. I don't understand it. He's never been a hugely popular celebrity with anyone I know. I assume since they don't have a more interesting person to watch destroy themselves, they've settled for Sheen. It is a waste of time. I don't know why we are discussing it, but I think the larger point of mental illness and substance abuse is of desperate value for many people. I need sleep. This is only about my 3rd day here and it's quickly becoming an addiction. Sleep deprivation, addiction -I can now relate to Charlie.
You know you have a problem when Gary Busey posts that he is praying for you.
This comment is derivative of the pop-culture media that poses as news these days. What do we really know about Gary Busey other than the fact that he's weird (so what?) and has had an addiction problem? Yes, maybe Gary Busey IS just the person that Charlie Sheen (and any others who might see themselves in Charley) needs to hear from. Gary Busey doesn't have a history of hurting anyone but himself, that I know of, and I don't know a lot about him. So maybe he is actually a kind, generous person who just rubs people the wrong way? Sheesh.
Believe me, no one loves Gary Busey and his weirdness more than I.
I am simply stating that Gary did not even recognize that he was on celebrity rehab as a patient, and not a healer. Therefore, when this kind, generous person who rubs people the wrong way can detect and recognize a problem like Charlie Sheens...it must be serious!
Go Pepperoni Prophet!
Here is what i have learned from trying to help people who are taking too much drugs or drinking too much booze, they will not stop until htey are ready we can cry, lose sleep eat too much or less but they do not care. They do not care bechuse until they can see their own actions they do not think they are doing anything wrong. So roseanne like you said he needs to fall hard hit rock bottom and he will. Hopefully it happens soon.
yes--hey--you always spell 'because' bechuse
He is a narcissistic sociopath who is suffering from crack induced psychosis. You don't have to have any drugs or alcohol in your system ever again to suffer from it. It is simply a break with reality after abusing crack cocaine for an extended period of time. Unfortunately for him, it will not likely go away. Many people who get to this point suffer from a heart attack or organ failure. Also it looks like he's drinking again. I bet it's devastating for his family to watch, but might be a good thing in the end. He is an abusive addict.
I think he payed that tabloid for his urine and blood test to be "clean" to somewhat save his image (in his mind). Tabloids are all about money so I'm sure this wouldn't be the first time. Otherwise, why didn't he go to a reputable drug testing center or doctor to have the test done?? Hmmmmm....makes you wonder. He'll no, the man is definitely not "clean and sober."
Really Roseanne. "Tea-partier types who are big fans..."? Don't insult my parents like that - they'd never watch that shit show.
It began as humorous. We thought he was acting. It is no longer funny, and I'm getting very tired of the jokes and laughter. Charlie is a very sick man. Brain cells will take only so much abuse, drugs and alcohol eventually take their toll. Yes...he did it to himself. Whether you like the man or not, blame him or not, I believe it's time for a little compassion.
I some have first hand experience with Mr Sheen. I wont get into details and I would not sell my story or compromise my integrity for any amount. I was a low level security person anyway..and It is from a few years ago. His handlers and sycophants were more than enablers they were instigators. It was the absolute worst assignment anyone could have. It was physically nauseating.If people who are vicariously enjoying this media train-wreck knew how sick this is, it wouldn't be as amusing. In my opinion him hitting rock bottom any further would be death. He needs to be proven incompetent, the problem is who around him caould be trusted to do the right thing? I dont think anyone.
The television show Roseanne and Two and Half Men have a lot in common.
Different roads travelled, but the same direction. These shows were created as art imitating the real lives of antagonists. And, all of a sudden, one day the networks realized they couldn't leash the "dogs" they bought.
Lame.
Only difference between the actual shows is that I truly believe Roseanne was one of the most relevant sitcoms in the history of television. Seasons 2 through 5 were the best TV ever.
He's hi and you're hi if you think he's not! As a former crack addict myself (not all crack-heads are black and living in inner-cities - we white folks just call it "freebasing" and shun the word "crack"), watching him is like looking in a mirror during my days of addiction. The jerky actions, dilated eyes and ramblings of a nonsensical paranoid are all classic signs. There are ways to fool a urine test and who knows about the blood tests, plus, I'm sure his publicist is making sure he passes. He's high on crack and it's clear as day to those of us that have at one time or another unfortunately fell into the hold of that drug
Celebrity seems to do something to people, where those in the public tend to identify with, or seem to think they know the person, personally. For this reason, celebrities so frequently get a "free pass" with regard to public opinion.
I would like those who are having sympathies for Mr.Sheen to consider this: would you have the same kind of sympathy for the wife-beater down the road? How about in the penitentiary?
What about the crack-head on the corner? Would you be just as sympathetic towards a person who physically assaulted or threatened the life of a family member, friend, or co-worker? How about somebody who neglects their children for months on end to smoke crack?
I would encourage those with sympathies for Mr.Sheen to take your sympathies to the nearest women's shelter.
Ah, I agree with most of your thoughts Ms Barr, except for the cheap-shot remark about "Tea Party types" being fans of 2 1/2 Men, or his hedonistic/moronic lifestyle and attitude. I've never watched the show, but for a few moments. Just long enough to see how broadcast-standard-fare/dumbed-down it is. It's the far lefties I know who are big fans of that crap. They lap up mindless drivel from networks, mainstream media, and our current White House like parched cats at the milk bowl.
But unless his live-in parasites confront Carlos, and have him committed for a mental evaluation, I fear the worst for him. Elvis minor.
I agree, and I wouldn't give those women a free pass either.
Unfortunately, however, there is a statistically significant greater proportion of victimized women, and the risk (physical or otherwise) is far greater (which is why there are women's shelters and not men's). This is notwithstanding the fact that a woman is at a greater disadvantage to protect themselves, not just from a physical, but also from a socio-economic standpoint. Women are far more likely to be victims of physical violence from their partner, and have far less recourse with regard to protecting themselves and their children, physically or otherwise. Of course, there are exceptions, but I am speaking in the most general sense.
But yes, there are drug-addicted and looney women out there too! ;)
ive never seen an entire episode either so i wont miss him. but i will say it takes a helluva man to throw away 1.5 million per show just to give yourself the satisfaction of pissing your boss off. next time theres a tornado in california everyone can just shelter in place under charlies ego.
oh btw, what is a "tea partier type"?
Agreed, but know that a lot of men won't report it or admit it due to shame. There's a stigma about being a man that is abused by a woman. That skews that stats.
However, I do agree that percentage of women is higher overall.
I think Charlie needs to commit himself, and at least get a clean bill of mental health. As Roseanne said, it could be bipolar disorder. Could be lots of things. Many of which are controllable with medication. Sometimes this kind of self-destructive behavior is caused by external influences, butt-kissers who tell him he can do no wrong until he believes it. That's the downside to being beloved, it seems to me. I wouldn't know. Roseanne might. :)
Is it possible that this is public persona perfomance art, as Joaquin Phoenix just pulled off? Charlie Sheen has managed to grab the headlines and attention of America like no actor has done before. World War 3 has begun in the middle east, the Republicans are trying to break unions in America for their corporate buddies, and Charlie Sheen is the big news. Whether manic or performance art, that is no small feat. He even has people talking like him. That's my take. Roseanne, love you and miss your creative genius on TV. Your show will always be one of my favorites.
Charlie's behavior sure looks like the "invincible me" of a manic phase. As for Tea-partiers liking his style of humor, I dont. But thanks for not calling me a Tea-bagger!
Truth is, I think you are closer to being a Tea-partier than you might think. You wanna live life on your own terms without somebody else telling you how to do it? Thats us baby! You think some blue blood who never did an honest days work in their life knows how to spend your money better than you(not)? You might be a Tea-partier. If not, what the heck...IM TALKING TO ROSEANNE:)!!!!
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Oh my god does he ever!